It's just the best way to start your day. People who surf, they know the object is to have fun. You work hard, but you work hard to have fun.

Both of us have a lot of experience in our fields, and our work styles are very complementary. I'm always going 50 miles an hour and thinking 90 steps ahead. She's much calmer about everything.

We'd surf together, then go straight to the coffee shop and have our meetings. It's amazing how much we'd get done.

One of the guarantees is that we're going to have fun, we're going to have a good time, because we're friends. We started out being friends because we had so much in common, and now it's come full circle. All the lines are blurred.