They're going to tax people who have to get a payday loan just to keep their lights from being turned off.

We are very encouraged that supporters of these taxes have been conducting polls. The fact they have not announced the results of those polls tells me their side is losing.

The opposition was heard from. I think it's important that both sides be heard.

You know we have elections next year and maybe we need new ideas, new leadership to negotiate good terms with the teams.